Google and Google Buyers: As a Techless Hoarder Etsy Newbie, Post #4
I guess this is my post for Techless Tuesday! However, I'm not sure how helpful writing this is to me or anyone else out there.
I still can't navigate my way through facebook and although I do spend some weekly time there, I wonder how much I really need it.
These posts are discouraging me as a techless hoarder etsy newbie (THeN) and the only reason why I'm writing them is because when I first started out I couldn't find any information, except for the DO's and DONT's on the etsy site, but that maybe due to my techlessness?
I started a post on "shipping" as a THeN, but I think I'll delete it! The USPS site is like an endless maze to me! and writing this is more daunting than trying to figure it out!
1. Shop Name and Google: Getting your shop name on the first page and at the top of google. I don't know how important this is, but I thought I'd give it a go a while back.
How do you get to your shop? Do you google in "etsy" or your shop name to get to your shop? The shop name VintageToGoetsy used to be somewhere after page 10 on google, but I got it to the top by googling my shop name, instead of typing in etsy to get to my shop. I say, Be your own bot!
It was easier to get the shop, HoarderRehab to the top as one word, rather than two, to compete with other Hoarder Rehab places. I think it's because I didn't have to compete with all the other shops with similar shop names because there are very few, unlike Vintage To Go, which is numerous.
The Destiny of Things shop didn't take long to get to the top because I don't think many people google the word, "Destiny"
I'm doing my own botting again differently now that they are at the top or at least on page 1 of google, but this time with spaces between the words. I can't even find my shop! not even under images...hmmm, I'm not even sure how important it is anymore. What do you think?
If I ever find my shop name as I sift through the pages, how long will it take to get to page 1 at the top, what's the best way to get it done and how important is it?
If I ever choose shop names again... knock on wood... hope this is the last time repeating my hoard patterns and move on to something different, but anyway.... I will choose shorter names with easy initials as an acronym to remember it. I got lucky with VintageToGoetsy, as VTGe. HoarderRehab with HR and The Destiny of Things, as t-dot or "destiny" for short.
And I won't use a popular word either, like "vintage" and maybe something more visual with my location in it.
2. Google your own items: Try googling your own items for key words and see where it ends up. I also usually use google, "images" to find items more quickly. Also if you find your items on google images, you can also see who has them on their pinterest or flickr, if that's important to you.
3. Google and Buyers: It appears that 20% of my customers are from Google and sign up for etsy just to buy the one item. So far out of 58 sales, 12 most likely came from google.
I was reading an article on etsy on how to tag and title and I wish I had written the title down or can find where I bookmarked it on the computer, but I didn't. I've spent hours looking for it to write this article, but gave up.
I did take notes and this is what I wrote from one of the comments:
"It can take 2 weeks for Google to see, register a change in title and description and then may take up to two more weeks to crawl again."
That's all I wrote. I didn't even log a date or who commented on it or anything.
Etsy gives 140 characters per title, so I've been trying what I call "double titles" to see if I get higher on google for key words. And then I repeat the title in the description
I do get a lot of traffic from "Google Product Listing Ads" and "google". I would like to try etsy's "search ads" out of curiosity and just to see what happens, but for now I'd rather spend the $8 on donation or washi tape! Besides, I don't do well when things sell too fast.
4. Google as an etsy Traffic Source: on my etsy stats, on some days half of my traffic comes from google, including google from other countries, but the average daily seems to be 20-30%.
5. Why target a google buyers? It seems that the google buyers I get are looking for one specific thing as a replacement and buy it. They are very appreciative and are usually the ones that give me their story behind their purchase! I can live with that so well!
If you want to see the double titling with descriptions, see either shop, VintageToGoetsy , HoarderRehab
or The Destiny of Things.
VintageToGoetsy and HoarderRehab still might have some old titles and tagging in the sold area. I'm not sure how much it all matters, since they all sold eventually.
When I feel rushed to change listing titles and tags from Christmas to New Years and then from New Years to Valentines, I just remind myself, it only takes one view to sell one listing!
I also started a calendar of when to list holiday or specific items, for example, Halloween items could be listed way ahead of time, like the end of July or early August, , since a listing is good for four months. I don't see "Halloween" used as a keyword after Halloween. However, I noticed people are still using Christmas and Day of the Dead as a search or keywords, so I guess it depends.
Luckily I like to experiment just to see what happens, so this has been fun and interesting to me! Thank you etsy and google!
What I Learned:
1. Uh, I'm not a technical writer, but I tried my best in the time I allotted myself.
2. I find these posts as a THeN discouraging to write because it just reminds me and feels like I'm in THeN cycle of Catch22! I can't find things through searches because I'm a THeN or is it because some sites are just harder to navigate in? or there's some disguised guide or little trick for me to learn. It may search for hours on end and mr. oz finds it in 5 min. I can't believe it and even set a 5 min. timer now! and if they keep "updating" programs or whatever you call them, how will I ever catch up?
For instance, I find all kinds of informative articles, things to buy, inspirational and eye candy blogs but when I go back to try to find them again using the same search word and the same search engine, I can't find them! And if I'm drifting around the web and find something, I will most likely never find it again! I'll have a 50/50 chance if I bookmark it in my hoard of hoards bookmarking world.
Okay... and my bookmarking--Yikes! that's a whole other new world of hoard that's more out of control than my tangible hoard! I've tried all kinds of ways to organize my bookmarks, labeled folders and labeled folders within more labeled folders and my latest? labeling folders by date!
3. And when something gets updated, like when I opened my new shop, The Destiny of Things and they changed the format and I didn't notice my paypal was disabled for weeks because I was too busy navigating around and learning new vocabulary, like circling is now following, etc.
Right when I get used to something and how to do use their format and barely kinda maybe master it, it gets updated! Sometimes for a THeN like me, it's like starting all over again! Makes me kinda wonder if it's done on purpose to slow me down or want to give up or something! And they always say the new version is better, but that's not always true at all! Anyways, ending that rant and moving on..and to another rant!
The updating program thing reminds me of teaching, it's one of the thousand reasons why I left it. They started switching teaching paradigms so quickly, it was a waste and they said, it was because, "research says..." can research really move that quickly?
I remember when Math took a new path and it was called, "Discovery Math", it came with more new teacher vocabulary, one of my favorites being instead of "review" it was now "revisit" at least that gave me a quiet chuckle every time I used it or heard it being used!
That came with new books, all new manipulatives (I'm talking hoards worth, pounds and pounds for 35 students per classroom), which were really cool and fun, but the old math way was ditched after only 6-8 months and it was more old school. Long story short, students were supposed to "discover" how multiplication worked and not memorize the facts, but "discover" their own methods of remembering them!
Hmm.... I only have less than a year with my students and about less than an hour for math daily, so for each one to "discover" how multiplication works as in "an easier faster way to add" seems like an easy to concept to demonstrate or show, instead of "discover". Oh well, that's not how the school system works! As you can imagine, "discovery" math wasn't very successful in it's allotted time frame.
Yep, you guessed right, it was thrown out with the bath water and the new math systems was "state" based objectives by grade and then that was soon dumped for a math curriculum that had both "state" and "national" standards.
By the time, I left, teachers were mandated to post "state" and "national" standards with their acroyned notations! on all kinds of things from bulletin boards to worksheets, even art work. But by then they had already taken out most of the fun of teaching and learning, but it was just another stab in the back for teachers, like another hole in the head with all blood draining from my heart.
I think it was three new different math systems in two years. Before, they said we could only afford a new books every eight years. Someone made a lot of money from all the materials, books and teacher training!
Note to self: Write about the days when teaching was fun and more student/teach orientated, like go with the flow teaching. If you class was interesting in dinosaurs or astronomy, I could teach it through all the subjects as long as there was student interest and then snowball that interest into some other theme.
Figure out a way to bury the hatchet on how miserable teaching turned into!
I guess it's why I just make up words to fit my mood and present moment without thinking. I'm updating too! What a little chuckle, after shedding a tear!
***I just need to remember it takes one view, one buyer to meet up with one listing!
4. I'm so old fashioned, I mean.. old school! I like my rolodex, file systems, journals, books and notebooks full of saved articles from magazines and internet. I find them much easier and faster to use than a computer. I can usually find them before my puter even starts up completely!
As a matter of fact, if I could find my journals in my hoard, chuckle-chuckle, I would have an easier time finding what I've saved in them rather than the bookmarks on my puter.
I suppose thats another arguement in my favor to get a printer NOW, instead of later as a reward.
Maybe it's not about making my life easier with a printer, but my time to make my life more simple by getting it more manageable with less things, so I can use what I have and love.
Oopsy, back to the original subject of this posting.... Will I forever be a techless newbie?
NEW 5-10 year goal: My goal is to one day use my computer for an hour a day!
How do you picture yourself in 10 years? 5 Years?
Thank you etsy and google for a new learning experience! Thank you US, Germany, UK, NL, Poland and Trinidad and Tobago for your visit today!
Post Note: sorry, these are so messy, but I was trying to be helpful to other THeN and since I'm giving myself a time limit now I don't spend enough time proofreading. And I don't have time to look for pics. Oh well, I just keep reminding myself what I used to tell my students, "your thoughts and ideas are more important than grammar and spelling. Do you think your thoughts and ideas can be understand with this draft?
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As a Techless Hoarder Newbie on etsy: How I List an Item on Etsy, Post #2
As a Techless Hoarder Newbie on etsy: How I List and Item on Etsy, Post #2
When I first started etsy there were so many things to remember when I listed an item, I sometimes would forgot to add the dimension or condition or look at it thoroughly! (Sometimes the less I look at it, the less I consider keeping it) I learned from the "Red Plate Special" to be more careful of my inspections, but luckily in some cases it wasn't necessary.
Most of the time, I didn't look at them
just to get them listed before I changed my mind. In the very
beginning mr. oz so kindly did everything for me and just asked me to
price them. Sometimes I couldn't even do that because I was miserable,
confused and fearful about "the real possibility" of letting go of my hoard and putting my stuff out in public!!!
However since they were in the donation pile or by the fireplace as kindle I priced many at $5. Even with these blind listings, it was a challenge for me to sell them and get used to the idea that someone might buy them and I'd have to ship them off somewhere. Then once they were published I had to deal with it. And when the first item sold..... that's another story.
I've read articles on etsy that basically say price high, especially when pricing your craft. It said it's better to sell less at a higher price than many at a low price, but I suppose I should save it for another time.
I've never taken a business class or at least one I can remember. I have tried reading "The Art of War" several times and can't get passed any page every time! I have picked up from movies that one should know "your" customers. I do this by studying their profiles and looking at their favorites. I try to put myself in "their" shoes and try to find some common grounds.
Over the months my listings have evolved into something discernible and pattern like and I thought I'd list it here to see if it helps another bewildered, yet excited newbie as I am and also to document my progress. I have met many other techless etsy newbies and even techful ones, but the newbies who do share with me seem to have the same concerns and questions as I do.
This is my check list for listing an item on etsy:
1) Two way titles: I use two way titles because most of my buyers appear to be from google. I seem to get many buyers who are replacing something or appear to have joined etsy that day just to buy from one of my shops. I have kept informal stats, but they are lost somewhere in my written journals.
I've tried short titles, enticing titles(heart and soul titles, funny titles) and titles with words that might be used as key words. I like watching keywords in stats because there's always "some" word(s) that someone typed into google or etsy that surprises and delights me to no end! I'll start collecting these words to share with you!
2) Have you ever wondered why on ebay some sellers repeat the title in the description many times? I'm not sure, but I think it's because they are trying to get google buyers too.
I read an etsy article about tagging when I first began in June 2012. It was one of their older blog articles and have looked for it several times since, but haven't been able to find it again( The newbie blog articles seem to be way in the back of the Seller's Handbook, so it's best to go to the seller's handbook, go to the last page and work from there. I also read the long comments, they seem to be the most helpful to me) Someone in the comment wrote something like this and it's stuck in my mind:
The google bot can take up to two weeks to scan a listing and mainly the first, I think it was 160 words. Etsy gives 140 words per title, so maybe that's the "key" amount. I don't really know, but I do know that some people have found my listings through "key" words I've used towards the bottom of a listing that were not in tags or title.
I repeat my title in my description as an experiment to see if it strengthens any google searches until I can refind that etsy article! Now I save or bookmark any etsy articles that help, inspire or motivate me because techless me has a hard time navigating on their blog site.
Here's a neat trick my brother taught me years ago to help repeat the title in description area more quickly. In the title box make sure the bar is flashing. Use ctrl a (I call it "Control All", it should highlight the entire area), ctrl c, (should copy the highlighted area) Next place the blinking bar in the description area and use ctrl v, (it should paste the title there for you) I think it's faster than using the edit menu, but if you need a reminder the symbols are also in the edit menu for you.
3. describe the items with ideas on how to use the item daily, special occasions, as a gift. Add a slogan.
This part can kill me to no end! I have items sit in draft for long periods of time because after I describe it and all it's varied handy dandy uses, etc. I want to keep it!
4. condition and dimensions, h x l x w, just like the post office box and sometimes add how deep it is, include with condition, see pic on zoom for your own satisfaction and comfort level
5. Discount for items bought in multiples.
6. other links to similar specific item(s) in either shops.
This part is sometimes difficult to decide, like is the buyer looking at vintage jewelry or jewelry from India. I hope etsy adds a new feature that lets me add an item in more than one section, so I don't have make that decision! Oh and talking about an etsy dream list, I'd also like more than 10 sections!
7. one link to a section and/or another shop
I do this because it seems many new shoppers and I included (as a buyer and then seller) didn't even notice the "section" area for years! And it seems shoppers are looking for one specific thing and it seems more serious buyers actually click on the listing to read beyond the title and price. So I add the links because as a newbie I'd be more inclined to use them.
8. Add Side Kick Story, Hoarder History or Untold Destiny
This part can derail me, but I think it's important for my therapy and some people seem to like the stories!
9. small print of things to know: US and international shipping info, insurance, read policies, thank you
10. I've learned that tagging is as important as the title.
Etsy gives 20 letters per tag and 13 tags total. I used to cram as many words as the 20 letters allowed. Then I went down to 2-3 words per tag and now one word per tag. I've even gotten views with commonly miss spelled words, slang and acronyms, like Bollywood, DOD, swag, chanclas, mcm or words with multiple ways of spelling, like collectible and collectable, handmade and hand made, etc.
ONE WORD tags have worked best for me for several reasons. Once I got down to using one word tags, I got a lot more views. (except for mid century modern and sometimes, home decor) I was surprised to find how many shoppers search on etsy using only "one" keyword. I study my "key words" in stats religiously to see how people are finding my stuff and sometimes change titles and tags accordingly. Also look at the trending words sometimes to see what colors are being used. Robin egg blue was a long tag for turquoise, but it was popular. I find it quite interesting and amazing, sometimes miraculous how people "end up" at any of my shops!
For example, someone visited one shop using the keywords, anti wedding. I thought that was very interesting and am tagging some of my listings as "anti, Valentine" to see if what happens.
Here's a little story: I bought a roundish lidded basket with a long strap. I had intended to use it as a summer purse or a portable sewing basket, but when I went to pay for it, the guy at the register said, "I was wondering who was going to buy that!" and continued with, "my teacher used to bring his tarantula to class in one just like that. Do you have a tarantula?" After that the basket just held keys and what not at the entry way and I never felt comfortable reaching in it again. I know silly.
When I listed the basket, I used "tarantula basket" in the title and got many hits off google and some from etsy, I'm not sure how etsy titles coincide with tags. Surprisingly key words, like tarantula basket, tarantula home showed up, even venus fly trap. I like checking my key words because I am so in awe as to how people find my shops! Sometimes I wish I knew who they were just so I could thank them!
***I find it best to remember that it only takes one buyer with one view to order one listing.
On some slow days with only 25 or less views, I've still make a sale. Most of my buyers don't even favorite the item or any items nor are they in any circles. I think I average one sale a day and that's about all my hoarding little heart can take at this time! If something "heavy duty" gets ordered, I sometimes take 10% of it and buy something, but I'm thinking now I'll donate it and see how that helps me!
I have also found that views seem to correspond with items listed, so if I have 50 items listed I can expect approx. 50 views. Once I hit 100+ listing, I get at least 100 views a day. Adding one new listing a day seems to be enough to bring in new views. I thought it might just be a random happening, but the pattern seems to hold true. I've kept better track of views with the newer shop, The Destiny of Things, and even when I started with four items I got four views and so on. I just added nine new items to Destiny, so I should get around 60 hits a day now.
I hope this post makes sense in my new allotted time schedule because as a techless hoarder newbie on etsy getting this far was not a piece of cake for me and I'm still wandering around and experimenting through trial and error! So if anyone wants to join me in any type techless hoarder newbie convo on etsy, please do!
I have more to say about tagging, googling, circling, following and feedback or anything on or off topic, so let me know if you are interested! I'll write it up pronto!
I have found experimenting is slow, but works well. The Treasury page is very inspirational and informative for titles and tags to try and experiment. Discovering alternatives that work for me is exciting and keeps me going! What about you?
Thank you US, UK, Canada, Germany, Italy, Ireland, Netherlands, Trinidad and Tobago for meeting here with me today for another round of HoarderRehab!
When I first started etsy there were so many things to remember when I listed an item, I sometimes would forgot to add the dimension or condition or look at it thoroughly! (Sometimes the less I look at it, the less I consider keeping it) I learned from the "Red Plate Special" to be more careful of my inspections, but luckily in some cases it wasn't necessary.
However since they were in the donation pile or by the fireplace as kindle I priced many at $5. Even with these blind listings, it was a challenge for me to sell them and get used to the idea that someone might buy them and I'd have to ship them off somewhere. Then once they were published I had to deal with it. And when the first item sold..... that's another story.
I've read articles on etsy that basically say price high, especially when pricing your craft. It said it's better to sell less at a higher price than many at a low price, but I suppose I should save it for another time.
I've never taken a business class or at least one I can remember. I have tried reading "The Art of War" several times and can't get passed any page every time! I have picked up from movies that one should know "your" customers. I do this by studying their profiles and looking at their favorites. I try to put myself in "their" shoes and try to find some common grounds.
Over the months my listings have evolved into something discernible and pattern like and I thought I'd list it here to see if it helps another bewildered, yet excited newbie as I am and also to document my progress. I have met many other techless etsy newbies and even techful ones, but the newbies who do share with me seem to have the same concerns and questions as I do.
This is my check list for listing an item on etsy:
1) Two way titles: I use two way titles because most of my buyers appear to be from google. I seem to get many buyers who are replacing something or appear to have joined etsy that day just to buy from one of my shops. I have kept informal stats, but they are lost somewhere in my written journals.
I've tried short titles, enticing titles(heart and soul titles, funny titles) and titles with words that might be used as key words. I like watching keywords in stats because there's always "some" word(s) that someone typed into google or etsy that surprises and delights me to no end! I'll start collecting these words to share with you!
2) Have you ever wondered why on ebay some sellers repeat the title in the description many times? I'm not sure, but I think it's because they are trying to get google buyers too.
I read an etsy article about tagging when I first began in June 2012. It was one of their older blog articles and have looked for it several times since, but haven't been able to find it again( The newbie blog articles seem to be way in the back of the Seller's Handbook, so it's best to go to the seller's handbook, go to the last page and work from there. I also read the long comments, they seem to be the most helpful to me) Someone in the comment wrote something like this and it's stuck in my mind:
The google bot can take up to two weeks to scan a listing and mainly the first, I think it was 160 words. Etsy gives 140 words per title, so maybe that's the "key" amount. I don't really know, but I do know that some people have found my listings through "key" words I've used towards the bottom of a listing that were not in tags or title.
I repeat my title in my description as an experiment to see if it strengthens any google searches until I can refind that etsy article! Now I save or bookmark any etsy articles that help, inspire or motivate me because techless me has a hard time navigating on their blog site.
Here's a neat trick my brother taught me years ago to help repeat the title in description area more quickly. In the title box make sure the bar is flashing. Use ctrl a (I call it "Control All", it should highlight the entire area), ctrl c, (should copy the highlighted area) Next place the blinking bar in the description area and use ctrl v, (it should paste the title there for you) I think it's faster than using the edit menu, but if you need a reminder the symbols are also in the edit menu for you.
3. describe the items with ideas on how to use the item daily, special occasions, as a gift. Add a slogan.
This part can kill me to no end! I have items sit in draft for long periods of time because after I describe it and all it's varied handy dandy uses, etc. I want to keep it!
4. condition and dimensions, h x l x w, just like the post office box and sometimes add how deep it is, include with condition, see pic on zoom for your own satisfaction and comfort level
5. Discount for items bought in multiples.
6. other links to similar specific item(s) in either shops.
This part is sometimes difficult to decide, like is the buyer looking at vintage jewelry or jewelry from India. I hope etsy adds a new feature that lets me add an item in more than one section, so I don't have make that decision! Oh and talking about an etsy dream list, I'd also like more than 10 sections!
7. one link to a section and/or another shop
I do this because it seems many new shoppers and I included (as a buyer and then seller) didn't even notice the "section" area for years! And it seems shoppers are looking for one specific thing and it seems more serious buyers actually click on the listing to read beyond the title and price. So I add the links because as a newbie I'd be more inclined to use them.
8. Add Side Kick Story, Hoarder History or Untold Destiny
This part can derail me, but I think it's important for my therapy and some people seem to like the stories!
9. small print of things to know: US and international shipping info, insurance, read policies, thank you
10. I've learned that tagging is as important as the title.
Etsy gives 20 letters per tag and 13 tags total. I used to cram as many words as the 20 letters allowed. Then I went down to 2-3 words per tag and now one word per tag. I've even gotten views with commonly miss spelled words, slang and acronyms, like Bollywood, DOD, swag, chanclas, mcm or words with multiple ways of spelling, like collectible and collectable, handmade and hand made, etc.
ONE WORD tags have worked best for me for several reasons. Once I got down to using one word tags, I got a lot more views. (except for mid century modern and sometimes, home decor) I was surprised to find how many shoppers search on etsy using only "one" keyword. I study my "key words" in stats religiously to see how people are finding my stuff and sometimes change titles and tags accordingly. Also look at the trending words sometimes to see what colors are being used. Robin egg blue was a long tag for turquoise, but it was popular. I find it quite interesting and amazing, sometimes miraculous how people "end up" at any of my shops!
For example, someone visited one shop using the keywords, anti wedding. I thought that was very interesting and am tagging some of my listings as "anti, Valentine" to see if what happens.
Here's a little story: I bought a roundish lidded basket with a long strap. I had intended to use it as a summer purse or a portable sewing basket, but when I went to pay for it, the guy at the register said, "I was wondering who was going to buy that!" and continued with, "my teacher used to bring his tarantula to class in one just like that. Do you have a tarantula?" After that the basket just held keys and what not at the entry way and I never felt comfortable reaching in it again. I know silly.
When I listed the basket, I used "tarantula basket" in the title and got many hits off google and some from etsy, I'm not sure how etsy titles coincide with tags. Surprisingly key words, like tarantula basket, tarantula home showed up, even venus fly trap. I like checking my key words because I am so in awe as to how people find my shops! Sometimes I wish I knew who they were just so I could thank them!
***I find it best to remember that it only takes one buyer with one view to order one listing.
On some slow days with only 25 or less views, I've still make a sale. Most of my buyers don't even favorite the item or any items nor are they in any circles. I think I average one sale a day and that's about all my hoarding little heart can take at this time! If something "heavy duty" gets ordered, I sometimes take 10% of it and buy something, but I'm thinking now I'll donate it and see how that helps me!
I have also found that views seem to correspond with items listed, so if I have 50 items listed I can expect approx. 50 views. Once I hit 100+ listing, I get at least 100 views a day. Adding one new listing a day seems to be enough to bring in new views. I thought it might just be a random happening, but the pattern seems to hold true. I've kept better track of views with the newer shop, The Destiny of Things, and even when I started with four items I got four views and so on. I just added nine new items to Destiny, so I should get around 60 hits a day now.
I hope this post makes sense in my new allotted time schedule because as a techless hoarder newbie on etsy getting this far was not a piece of cake for me and I'm still wandering around and experimenting through trial and error! So if anyone wants to join me in any type techless hoarder newbie convo on etsy, please do!
I have more to say about tagging, googling, circling, following and feedback or anything on or off topic, so let me know if you are interested! I'll write it up pronto!
I have found experimenting is slow, but works well. The Treasury page is very inspirational and informative for titles and tags to try and experiment. Discovering alternatives that work for me is exciting and keeps me going! What about you?
Thank you US, UK, Canada, Germany, Italy, Ireland, Netherlands, Trinidad and Tobago for meeting here with me today for another round of HoarderRehab!
Wednesday, October 24, 2012
How I Tag an Item on etsy: As a Techless Hoarder Newbie on etsy, Story #3
How I Tag an Item on Etsy: As a techless hoarder newbie on etsy, Confusion Story #3
I found this today in my hoard of backdrafts from 10/24/2012 and also one on my thoughts on googling, most of the blue words are what I added today, 8JAN2013
Written as techless as it can get! May the best of my past be the worst of my future!
It might bring a chuckle to techful person out there, even if they can understand what I'm trying to say. I think after the google article, I'll focus on Reviews, HR Diet and other more fun things to me!
I was going to delete it, but since I'm still recovering from the "straw that broke the camel's back---- Melt Down" maybe someone besides me will glean something from it or spark an idea or even want to start a "techless hoarder newbie" support group. I would welcome anyone! techful or techless, hoarder, no hoarder, newbie or experienced, student or mentor, successful or wants to be more successful.
I'm not sure if this is exactly correct or if there is a better way to TAG,but through trial and error, this is how I am tagging now. If there is a better way or you have an idea to try or more info. to share, let me know!
Only 13 tags can be used on an etsy listing and I use them all!!!! When I first started I used to TAG using as many words as the TAG box let me (up to 20 letters), so they sometimes resembled titles. Then I went down to two or three words and now I use one word tags because they seem to bring me more traffic. I think I get more traffic that way since with one words they can be interchanged with many more combinations than a two word tag, unless....
There are exceptions, like mid century modern and often people use the initials as, "mcm" So right now I was both in tags and in titles. Also right now, I've seen some use the term, Scandi for Scandanavian, so I might try "scandi" as a TAG. Using Scandi wasn't very successful and someone used "anti" wedding and got to one of my shops, so I'm trying it with "anti" Valentine. Some interesting keywords I've seen in my shops are: a, dod, venus flytrap, .....I had a whole list to share, but I can not find it. When I do, I'll update this area. And I had some good words to!
Right now I'm using Halloween as an Occasion in both the occasion box and as a tag and in my listing titles. Later I will change it to Thanksgiving Holiday and then Christmas Holiday and the same with Tags, like decor, home, wedding, Valentine
For example:
wooden toy box is much better off as three separate tags because the combinations available that way are a lot higher than someone typing in the exact order of "wooden toy box". By the way, if you do use "wooden" I have found using the word, "wood" is also helpful to searchers.
mid century modern isn't a tag I would separate often because I don't think anyone would use it in any other different combinations. Although, I do separate mid century and modern, if the item and could be used with another describing word, such as American or Danish.
I leave out colors usually, unless it's popular to the latest craze, like robin egg blue used to be. Now it seems to be "orange" and "black", "teal", peacock, burnt orange, etc.
Also, depending on what I am listing I might have to use the plural and singular of the word. For example, on HoarderREhab, I am selling my miniature collection, so I use "miniature" and "miniatures," as tags. Also with compound words that some spell either way, like, "shadow box" or "shadowbox"
Look at similiar items of yours on etsy and see what tags they use, especially if they are on the Home Page.
Tagging confuses me and boggles my mind to no end! But even when I had terrible tags and just put in words that came to my head I still had sales. I've seen others with one tag for a listing. So "doing your own thing" seems to work for anyone!
Remember I'm a techless hoarder newbie bumping around in the dark trying to figure things out through a death, allergies, insomnia and recovering hoarder stress and I'm not the only one!
I am thankful I have the time to experiment and roam around other's shops to see how they are doing and what tags and titles are working for them. I'm thankful I like studying and enjoy see the quirky words and other keywords that bring people to my shops! I might not be good at it, but I'm having more fun than I ever thought possible on my HoarderRehab adventure!
I am sorry, I am not doing well today and this blog fonts, colors, etc are not working with me today, so it is another mess I will have to redraft later.
It is doing all kind of crazy things and I do not have much more patience left to cooperate with it. Please forgive me and it. Now it's erasing things I highlight, which I don't. Sorry, this will be my ugliest post to date! Have a good chuckle about that with me! Oh well, it's done now. Tomorrow is a new day!
Thank you US, also ontimemarking.biz, Germany, UK, NZ, France, Russia, Trinidad and Tobago for being here with me today with second to the last techless hoarder newbie articles.
Parting Thoughts: A moment of silence for Huell Howser, who's shows "California Gold"of PBS were one of my favorites. He could bring the ordinary lives and places of California into the amazing zone with true magic wonder!
I remember the time I had to go to a three or four hour teacher educational lecture on a Saturday afternoon and was not pleased, but it was Huell Howser and I was so surprised when his enthusiasm and stories never ran out and the time went by so quickly and I felt energized, inspired and joyful!
Thank you Huell Howser for putting so much of yourself into "California Gold" creating wonderment for anyone who thought they had seem everything by turning the ordinary into special delights!
I will return to some of my favorite episodes of California Gold and take a ride down memory lane from the 90s! I can't find my favorite, but here is one I could find.
I found this today in my hoard of backdrafts from 10/24/2012 and also one on my thoughts on googling, most of the blue words are what I added today, 8JAN2013
Written as techless as it can get! May the best of my past be the worst of my future!
It might bring a chuckle to techful person out there, even if they can understand what I'm trying to say. I think after the google article, I'll focus on Reviews, HR Diet and other more fun things to me!
I was going to delete it, but since I'm still recovering from the "straw that broke the camel's back---- Melt Down" maybe someone besides me will glean something from it or spark an idea or even want to start a "techless hoarder newbie" support group. I would welcome anyone! techful or techless, hoarder, no hoarder, newbie or experienced, student or mentor, successful or wants to be more successful.
I'm not sure if this is exactly correct or if there is a better way to TAG,but through trial and error, this is how I am tagging now. If there is a better way or you have an idea to try or more info. to share, let me know!
Only 13 tags can be used on an etsy listing and I use them all!!!! When I first started I used to TAG using as many words as the TAG box let me (up to 20 letters), so they sometimes resembled titles. Then I went down to two or three words and now I use one word tags because they seem to bring me more traffic. I think I get more traffic that way since with one words they can be interchanged with many more combinations than a two word tag, unless....
There are exceptions, like mid century modern and often people use the initials as, "mcm" So right now I was both in tags and in titles. Also right now, I've seen some use the term, Scandi for Scandanavian, so I might try "scandi" as a TAG. Using Scandi wasn't very successful and someone used "anti" wedding and got to one of my shops, so I'm trying it with "anti" Valentine. Some interesting keywords I've seen in my shops are: a, dod, venus flytrap, .....I had a whole list to share, but I can not find it. When I do, I'll update this area. And I had some good words to!
Right now I'm using Halloween as an Occasion in both the occasion box and as a tag and in my listing titles. Later I will change it to Thanksgiving Holiday and then Christmas Holiday and the same with Tags, like decor, home, wedding, Valentine
For example:
wooden toy box is much better off as three separate tags because the combinations available that way are a lot higher than someone typing in the exact order of "wooden toy box". By the way, if you do use "wooden" I have found using the word, "wood" is also helpful to searchers.
mid century modern isn't a tag I would separate often because I don't think anyone would use it in any other different combinations. Although, I do separate mid century and modern, if the item and could be used with another describing word, such as American or Danish.
I leave out colors usually, unless it's popular to the latest craze, like robin egg blue used to be. Now it seems to be "orange" and "black", "teal", peacock, burnt orange, etc.
Also, depending on what I am listing I might have to use the plural and singular of the word. For example, on HoarderREhab, I am selling my miniature collection, so I use "miniature" and "miniatures," as tags. Also with compound words that some spell either way, like, "shadow box" or "shadowbox"
Look at similiar items of yours on etsy and see what tags they use, especially if they are on the Home Page.
Tagging confuses me and boggles my mind to no end! But even when I had terrible tags and just put in words that came to my head I still had sales. I've seen others with one tag for a listing. So "doing your own thing" seems to work for anyone!
Remember I'm a techless hoarder newbie bumping around in the dark trying to figure things out through a death, allergies, insomnia and recovering hoarder stress and I'm not the only one!
I am thankful I have the time to experiment and roam around other's shops to see how they are doing and what tags and titles are working for them. I'm thankful I like studying and enjoy see the quirky words and other keywords that bring people to my shops! I might not be good at it, but I'm having more fun than I ever thought possible on my HoarderRehab adventure!
I am sorry, I am not doing well today and this blog fonts, colors, etc are not working with me today, so it is another mess I will have to redraft later.
It is doing all kind of crazy things and I do not have much more patience left to cooperate with it. Please forgive me and it. Now it's erasing things I highlight, which I don't. Sorry, this will be my ugliest post to date! Have a good chuckle about that with me! Oh well, it's done now. Tomorrow is a new day!
Thank you US, also ontimemarking.biz, Germany, UK, NZ, France, Russia, Trinidad and Tobago for being here with me today with second to the last techless hoarder newbie articles.
Parting Thoughts: A moment of silence for Huell Howser, who's shows "California Gold"of PBS were one of my favorites. He could bring the ordinary lives and places of California into the amazing zone with true magic wonder!
I remember the time I had to go to a three or four hour teacher educational lecture on a Saturday afternoon and was not pleased, but it was Huell Howser and I was so surprised when his enthusiasm and stories never ran out and the time went by so quickly and I felt energized, inspired and joyful!
Thank you Huell Howser for putting so much of yourself into "California Gold" creating wonderment for anyone who thought they had seem everything by turning the ordinary into special delights!
I will return to some of my favorite episodes of California Gold and take a ride down memory lane from the 90s! I can't find my favorite, but here is one I could find.
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